tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post7793657057229366197..comments2018-05-14T04:09:24.226-04:00Comments on CanJAmerican, I Am: Monergism vs. Synergism - Part 1JohnBrianMckhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09965356997860268485noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-56960975115072104882011-10-09T16:08:49.713-04:002011-10-09T16:08:49.713-04:00Nelson,
"Which synergists is he talking abou...Nelson,<br /><br />"Which synergists is he talking about?"<br /><br />The Charles Finney type!JohnBrianMckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965356997860268485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-61301488584432459252011-10-09T13:50:30.113-04:002011-10-09T13:50:30.113-04:00Question: You state:
"Hendryx also notes: ...Question: You state:<br /><br />"Hendryx also notes: Synergists believe that faith itself, a principle standing independent and autonomous of God's action of grace, is something the natural man must add or contribute toward the price of his salvation."<br /><br />Which synergists is he talking about?Nelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12470212473565517507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-10757829222722816672010-11-01T21:06:00.886-04:002010-11-01T21:06:00.886-04:00Jim (or is it Steve),
This is now the 3rd time th...Jim (or is it Steve),<br /><br />This is now the 3rd time that someone has posted almost identical questions in the comments section of my blog. This particular article does not deal specifically with the regeneration issue, and thus your contribution here is not directly related to my article.<br /><br />As I responded previously, my time is limited, and the writing of my articles takes precedence over a discussion of an issue that is not specifically related to my article.<br /><br />Since this is the 3rd time this issue with regeneration has been raised, and since the arguments are similar, I will delete any further comments related to this issue.JohnBrianMckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965356997860268485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-5282275548076919732010-11-01T18:59:48.351-04:002010-11-01T18:59:48.351-04:00Brian,
I have five more clarifying questions.
1....Brian,<br /><br />I have five more clarifying questions.<br /><br />1. Do you believe that the life we are given in regeneration is different and distinct from eternal life?<br /><br />2. Do you believe men were men “made alive together with Jesus Christ” apart from Jesus Christ coming to dwell in them to give them His life? (Eph. 2:5; Col. 3:4)<br /><br />3. Do you believe men were“born again through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead” before Jesus Christ rose from the dead? (1Peter 1:3)<br /><br />Two Questions from the quote below.<br /><br />4.Do you agree or disagree with John Piper: The historical resurrection had to take place before men were born again? <br /><br />5.Do you agree or disagree with John Piper: The life we are given in the new birth is eternal life?<br /><br /><br />“The second objective historical event that had to happen for us to be born again with eternal life was the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead… so the point is that by the new birth, God means for us to have not just new life, but eternal life… Our new life in the new birth will last forever.” (“Receive With Meekness the Implanted Word” –message by John Piper 1/6/08)<br /><br />In Christ,<br />JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546199031400255016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-86302355375089676072010-11-01T16:13:21.692-04:002010-11-01T16:13:21.692-04:00Jim,
I hold the position that Regeneration preced...Jim,<br /><br />I hold the position that Regeneration precedes Faith and is causal, so would affirm your 'A' statement.<br /><br />I wrote on this issue in a previous article, which you can read here:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/96Hapj<br /><br />I noted that Synergists routinely use the term 'regeneration' as a synonym for 'salvation,' which matches your 'B.' Monergists use the term in a more limited sense to refer specifically to the initial quickening.<br /><br />You are correct in pointing out that it is an argument about semantics.JohnBrianMckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965356997860268485noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-68714303786716799272010-11-01T15:48:04.878-04:002010-11-01T15:48:04.878-04:00Brian,
This is an interesting article. You have ...Brian, <br />This is an interesting article. You have gone to a great deal of work to compile your material. This appears to be a semantic argument. Therefore I must clearly understand how you define your terms. Would it be OK to ask you a clarifying question?<br /><br />Do you believe regeneration is…<br /><br />A. …a work of God to change a man to enable him to believe: giving him a new heart, enlightening the mind, giving him a new nature, new eyes to see, new ears to hear , free the will, activate and actuate the will, and giving a gift of faith with which to believe?<br /><br />B. … the work of God sending the gift of His Son into a man’s heart (Gal. 4:6), to indwell Him (Eph. 3:17), to give him the gift of eternal life (1John 5:11-12-he who has the Son has the life), and when he has been made alive with Jesus Christ, by grace he has been saved (Eph. 2:5)?<br /><br /><br />Thanks for your help,<br />JimJimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05546199031400255016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-67845925940845296102010-10-31T08:19:37.052-04:002010-10-31T08:19:37.052-04:00Very well done Brian - honest scholarship and accu...Very well done Brian - honest scholarship and accurate exegesis.Prophet Among Themhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15327230204932589689noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4436521411730683678.post-65035697976698600052010-10-30T22:51:14.215-04:002010-10-30T22:51:14.215-04:00I have linked to this article on Sharper Iron. You...I have linked to this article on Sharper Iron. You can follow the discussion there by pasting this link into your browser:<br /><br />http://bit.ly/avsnDwJohnBrianMckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09965356997860268485noreply@blogger.com